{"id":31,"date":"2019-11-18T17:43:32","date_gmt":"2019-11-18T22:43:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pressbooks.bccampus.ca\/svmfkpu\/?post_type=chapter&p=31"},"modified":"2022-12-15T12:47:31","modified_gmt":"2022-12-15T17:47:31","slug":"intersectionality","status":"publish","type":"chapter","link":"https:\/\/pressbooks.bccampus.ca\/svmfkpu\/chapter\/intersectionality\/","title":{"raw":"Equity Based Perspectives on Intersectionality","rendered":"Equity Based Perspectives on Intersectionality"},"content":{"raw":"

Speakers: CJ Rowe, Simon Fraser University and Shilo St. Cyr, University of BC - Okanagan<\/h2>\r\n

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Video Transcript<\/h2>\r\nJennifer Jordan: And<\/span> so<\/span> now<\/span> we're<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> move<\/span> on<\/span> to<\/span> our<\/span> afternoon<\/span> programming,<\/span> and<\/span> here<\/span> we<\/span> are.<\/span> So<\/span> I<\/span> would<\/span> like<\/span> to<\/span> introduce<\/span> CJ<\/span> and<\/span> Shiloh,<\/span> and<\/span> they<\/span> are<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> talk<\/span> about<\/span> equity<\/span> based<\/span> perspectives<\/span> and<\/span> intersectionality.<\/span> CJ<\/span> is<\/span> from<\/span> Simon<\/span> Fraser<\/span> University,<\/span> and<\/span> Shiloh<\/span> from<\/span> the<\/span> University<\/span> of<\/span> BC<\/span> Okanagon,<\/span> correct?<\/span> So<\/span> welcome.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: So<\/span> yesterday,<\/span> The<\/span> Inquirer<\/span> named<\/span> the<\/span> missing<\/span> and<\/span> murdered<\/span> indigenous<\/span> women<\/span> in<\/span> Canada<\/span> a<\/span> genocide.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> was<\/span> hoping<\/span> we<\/span> could<\/span> all<\/span> just<\/span> take<\/span> a<\/span> few<\/span> moments<\/span> of<\/span> silence<\/span> to<\/span> remember<\/span> those<\/span> women<\/span> and<\/span> children<\/span> who<\/span> have<\/span> been<\/span> impacted<\/span> and<\/span> are<\/span> continually<\/span> being<\/span> impacted<\/span> today<\/span> by<\/span> colonization<\/span> and<\/span> patriarchy.<\/span> Can<\/span> we<\/span> just<\/span> all<\/span> just<\/span> take<\/span> a<\/span> moment.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: These<\/span> moments<\/span> aren't<\/span> enough.<\/span> We<\/span> take<\/span> moments<\/span> of<\/span> silence,<\/span> but<\/span> we<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> do<\/span> more.<\/span> We<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> understand<\/span> our<\/span> history<\/span> and<\/span> our<\/span> present<\/span> moment<\/span> and<\/span> the<\/span> ongoing<\/span> neglect,<\/span> ignorance<\/span> of<\/span> this<\/span> violence,<\/span> that<\/span> we,<\/span> as<\/span> many<\/span> of<\/span> us<\/span> are,<\/span> settlers<\/span> on<\/span> this<\/span> land.<\/span> And<\/span> the<\/span> labor<\/span> continues<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> among<\/span> indigenous<\/span> women,<\/span> and<\/span> we<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> shoulder<\/span> up<\/span> and<\/span> take<\/span> on<\/span> this<\/span> and<\/span> be<\/span> more<\/span> active<\/span> in<\/span> our<\/span> community.<\/span> So<\/span> today,<\/span> we're<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> talk<\/span> about<\/span> intersectionality.<\/span> And<\/span> it<\/span> has<\/span> become<\/span> a<\/span> buzz<\/span> word,<\/span> where<\/span> it's<\/span> integrated<\/span> and<\/span> thrown<\/span> out<\/span> into<\/span> workshops,<\/span> and<\/span> it's<\/span> been<\/span> used<\/span> alone<\/span> to<\/span> [inaudible 00:01:50]<\/span> on<\/span> its<\/span> own.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> I<\/span> also<\/span> want<\/span> you<\/span> to<\/span> take<\/span> another<\/span> moment<\/span> to<\/span> think<\/span> about<\/span> how<\/span> much<\/span> do<\/span> you<\/span> know<\/span> about<\/span> it?<\/span> Do<\/span> you<\/span> know<\/span> the<\/span> history<\/span> of<\/span> intersectionality,<\/span> and<\/span> where<\/span> does<\/span> it<\/span> come<\/span> from,<\/span> and<\/span> how<\/span> you<\/span> use<\/span> intersectionality<\/span> in<\/span> your<\/span> own<\/span> work?<\/span> So<\/span> just<\/span> take<\/span> a<\/span> few<\/span> moments<\/span> before<\/span> we<\/span> dig<\/span> into<\/span> this.<\/span> ...<\/span> Okay.<\/span> I'm<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> pass<\/span> it<\/span> off<\/span> to<\/span> CJ,<\/span> who's<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> talk<\/span> about<\/span> intersectionality<\/span> to<\/span> dive<\/span> into<\/span> it<\/span> more.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Thanks,<\/span> Shiloh.<\/span> As<\/span> I<\/span> start,<\/span> I'd<\/span> like<\/span> to<\/span> thank<\/span> the<\/span> working<\/span> group<\/span> for<\/span> suggesting<\/span> that<\/span> we<\/span> shepherd<\/span> this<\/span> conversation<\/span> this<\/span> afternoon.<\/span> I'd<\/span> like<\/span> to<\/span> acknowledge<\/span> that<\/span> both<\/span> Shiloh<\/span> and<\/span> I<\/span> are<\/span> white<\/span> people,<\/span> are<\/span> settlers<\/span> on<\/span> this<\/span> land,<\/span> and<\/span> we're<\/span> in<\/span> director<\/span> roles<\/span> within<\/span> post<\/span> secondary<\/span> institutions.<\/span> We're<\/span> attempting<\/span> to<\/span> center<\/span> the<\/span> theory<\/span> and<\/span> practices<\/span> that<\/span> grew<\/span> out<\/span> of<\/span> critical<\/span> race<\/span> theory,<\/span> and<\/span> we're<\/span> inviting<\/span> you<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> as<\/span> critical<\/span> of<\/span> us<\/span> and<\/span> what<\/span> we're<\/span> sharing<\/span> with<\/span> you<\/span> this<\/span> afternoon<\/span> as<\/span> we<\/span> are<\/span> attempting<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> as<\/span> we<\/span> shepherd<\/span> this<\/span> conversation<\/span> and<\/span> engage<\/span> in<\/span> our<\/span> work<\/span> day<\/span> in<\/span> and<\/span> day<\/span> out.<\/span> What<\/span> we're<\/span> sharing<\/span> with<\/span> you<\/span> over<\/span> the<\/span> next<\/span> 30<\/span> minutes<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> sliver<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> conversations<\/span> and<\/span> practices<\/span> that<\/span> we<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> center<\/span> and<\/span> act<\/span> on<\/span> in<\/span> our<\/span> work,<\/span> on<\/span> our<\/span> campuses,<\/span> and<\/span> within<\/span> our<\/span> communities.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: So<\/span> with<\/span> that<\/span> in<\/span> mind,<\/span> we'd<\/span> like<\/span> to<\/span> dive<\/span> into<\/span> intersectionality,<\/span> and<\/span> a<\/span> bit<\/span> of<\/span> a<\/span> history<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> construct<\/span> and<\/span> theory.<\/span> Kimberle<\/span> Crenshaw,<\/span> who<\/span> is<\/span> pictured<\/span> behind<\/span> me,<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> professor<\/span> of<\/span> law<\/span> at<\/span> Columbia<\/span> Law<\/span> School<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> University<\/span> of<\/span> California<\/span> in<\/span> LA,<\/span> and<\/span> has<\/span> written<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> areas<\/span> of<\/span> civil<\/span> rights,<\/span> black<\/span> feminist<\/span> legal<\/span> theory,<\/span> race,<\/span> racism,<\/span> and<\/span> the<\/span> law.<\/span> In<\/span> 1989,<\/span> Dr.<\/span> Crenshaw<\/span> coined<\/span> the<\/span> term<\/span> intersectionality,<\/span> which<\/span> has<\/span> become<\/span> a<\/span> branch<\/span> of<\/span> feminism<\/span> and<\/span> an<\/span> analytic<\/span> framework<\/span> that<\/span> applies<\/span> critical<\/span> theory<\/span> to<\/span> attempt<\/span> to<\/span> identify<\/span> how<\/span> interlocking<\/span> systems<\/span> of<\/span> power<\/span> impact<\/span> those<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> most<\/span> marginalized<\/span> in<\/span> society.<\/span> In<\/span> her<\/span> work,<\/span> Dr.<\/span> Crenshaw<\/span> states,<\/span> \"Intersectionality<\/span> is<\/span> not<\/span> primarily<\/span> about<\/span> identity.<\/span> It's<\/span> about<\/span> how<\/span> structures<\/span> make<\/span> certain<\/span> identities<\/span> the<\/span> consequence<\/span> of<\/span> and<\/span> the<\/span> vehicle<\/span> for<\/span> vulnerability.\"<\/span> There<\/span> are<\/span> many<\/span> forms<\/span> of<\/span> social<\/span> stratification,<\/span> including<\/span> race,<\/span> class,<\/span> sexual<\/span> orientation,<\/span> religion,<\/span> disability,<\/span> gender<\/span> identity,<\/span> and<\/span> gender,<\/span> to<\/span> name<\/span> a<\/span> few,<\/span> which<\/span> are<\/span> included<\/span> in<\/span> intersectional<\/span> feminism<\/span> and<\/span> their<\/span> social<\/span> and<\/span> cultural<\/span> effects.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Intersectionality<\/span> is<\/span> about<\/span> the<\/span> analysis<\/span> of<\/span> structures.<\/span> And<\/span> Dr.<\/span> Crenshaw<\/span> is<\/span> interested<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> deep<\/span> structural<\/span> and<\/span> systemic<\/span> questions<\/span> about<\/span> discrimination<\/span> and<\/span> inequality.<\/span> So<\/span> intersectionality<\/span> emerged<\/span> from<\/span> the<\/span> ideas<\/span> based<\/span> and<\/span> debated<\/span> within<\/span> critical<\/span> race<\/span> theory.<\/span> Dr.<\/span> Crenshaw<\/span> wrote,<\/span> \"The<\/span> discrimination<\/span> remains<\/span> because<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> stubborn<\/span> endurance<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> structures<\/span> of<\/span> white<\/span> dominance.\"<\/span> Growing<\/span> from<\/span> dr<\/span> Crenshaw's<\/span> work,<\/span> some<\/span> have<\/span> expanded<\/span> the<\/span> meaning<\/span> of<\/span> intersectionality<\/span> and<\/span> intersectional<\/span> to<\/span> mean<\/span> to<\/span> take<\/span> into<\/span> consideration<\/span> intersection<\/span> ...<\/span> Sorry,<\/span> intersecting<\/span> identities<\/span> and<\/span> experiences<\/span> based<\/span> on<\/span> an<\/span> individual's<\/span> social<\/span> location.<\/span> Social<\/span> location<\/span> based<\/span> on<\/span> intersecting<\/span> identities<\/span> and<\/span> experiences<\/span> impacts<\/span> someone's<\/span> access<\/span> to<\/span> support,<\/span> if<\/span> they<\/span> are<\/span> believed<\/span> and<\/span> how<\/span> they<\/span> are<\/span> treated<\/span> in<\/span> their<\/span> communities.<\/span> Social<\/span> location<\/span> will<\/span> impact<\/span> their<\/span> experiences<\/span> within<\/span> institution,<\/span> such<\/span> as<\/span> the<\/span> medical,<\/span> legal,<\/span> and<\/span> educational<\/span> systems.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> you're<\/span> doing<\/span> the<\/span> bridge.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: Yeah.<\/span> I<\/span> am.<\/span> So<\/span> we<\/span> also<\/span> wanted<\/span> to<\/span> talk<\/span> about<\/span> trauma<\/span> informed<\/span> practice<\/span> and<\/span> rooting<\/span> it<\/span> in<\/span> intersectionality,<\/span> because<\/span> we<\/span> have<\/span> to<\/span> look<\/span> at<\/span> how<\/span> trauma<\/span> impacts<\/span> individuals,<\/span> and<\/span> also<\/span> how<\/span> it<\/span> collectively<\/span> impacts<\/span> community<\/span> who<\/span> have<\/span> experiences<\/span> of<\/span> oppression.<\/span> We<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> ground<\/span> this<\/span> work<\/span> in<\/span> what<\/span> we<\/span> do.<\/span> We<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> look<\/span> at<\/span> the<\/span> totality<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> individual<\/span> in<\/span> society.<\/span> So<\/span> what<\/span> is<\/span> trauma<\/span> informed<\/span> practice?<\/span> We're<\/span> shifting<\/span> away<\/span> from<\/span> the<\/span> clinical<\/span> model<\/span> that<\/span> focused<\/span> on<\/span> what's<\/span> wrong<\/span> with<\/span> you,<\/span> and<\/span> moving<\/span> questions<\/span> around<\/span> what<\/span> happened<\/span> to<\/span> you,<\/span> and<\/span> what's<\/span> right<\/span> with<\/span> you.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> it<\/span> acknowledges<\/span> the<\/span> interconnection<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> psychological,<\/span> biological,<\/span> and<\/span> neurological<\/span> effects<\/span> of<\/span> traumatic<\/span> experiences.<\/span> It<\/span> sees<\/span> the<\/span> impact<\/span> of<\/span> trauma<\/span> as<\/span> responses<\/span> and<\/span> adaptation<\/span> instead<\/span> of<\/span> symptoms.<\/span> And<\/span> with<\/span> that<\/span> question,<\/span> what<\/span> is<\/span> right<\/span> with<\/span> you?<\/span> It<\/span> really<\/span> focuses<\/span> in<\/span> on<\/span> being<\/span> strengths-based.<\/span> It<\/span> looks<\/span> at<\/span> giving<\/span> people<\/span> control,<\/span> collaborating<\/span> and<\/span> empowering,<\/span> and<\/span> making<\/span> sure<\/span> survivors<\/span> have<\/span> the<\/span> right<\/span> to<\/span> choose<\/span> what's<\/span> right<\/span> for<\/span> them,<\/span> and<\/span> also<\/span> understanding<\/span> that<\/span> trauma<\/span> looks<\/span> different<\/span> for<\/span> different<\/span> folks.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: An<\/span> indigenous<\/span> person<\/span> who<\/span> has<\/span> experienced<\/span> intergenerational<\/span> trauma,<\/span> who<\/span> experiences<\/span> a<\/span> recent<\/span> sexual<\/span> assault,<\/span> their<\/span> experience<\/span> is<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> a<\/span> lot<\/span> different<\/span> than<\/span> someone<\/span> else<\/span> who<\/span> doesn't<\/span> have<\/span> that<\/span> intergenerational<\/span> trauma<\/span> in<\/span> their<\/span> history.<\/span> And<\/span> there's<\/span> recognizing<\/span> that<\/span> there's<\/span> no<\/span> right<\/span> way<\/span> to<\/span> heal.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> when<\/span> we<\/span> think<\/span> of<\/span> intersectionality,<\/span> I<\/span> looked<\/span> at<\/span> kind<\/span> of<\/span> thinking<\/span> about<\/span> how<\/span> do<\/span> we<\/span> heal<\/span> collectively<\/span> as<\/span> a<\/span> community,<\/span> and<\/span> thinking<\/span> about<\/span> healing<\/span> centered<\/span> engagement.<\/span> Because<\/span> if<\/span> we<\/span> only<\/span> look<\/span> at<\/span> individuals,<\/span> we're<\/span> only<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> help<\/span> individuals.<\/span> And<\/span> healing<\/span> centered<\/span> engagement<\/span> considers<\/span> the<\/span> toxic<\/span> systems<\/span> in<\/span> our<\/span> society<\/span> that<\/span> caused<\/span> trauma.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: And<\/span> so<\/span> when<\/span> we<\/span> think<\/span> about<\/span> systems<\/span> and<\/span> people<\/span> as<\/span> individuals<\/span> in<\/span> those<\/span> systems,<\/span> so<\/span> collective<\/span> harm<\/span> might<\/span> call<\/span> on<\/span> different<\/span> approaches.<\/span> How<\/span> do<\/span> we<\/span> embed<\/span> power<\/span> in<\/span> our<\/span> approaches<\/span> to<\/span> healing<\/span> and<\/span> support?<\/span> Research<\/span> shows<\/span> that<\/span> the<\/span> more<\/span> power<\/span> you<\/span> have<\/span> in<\/span> your<\/span> community,<\/span> the<\/span> more<\/span> you<\/span> will<\/span> heal,<\/span> and<\/span> the<\/span> more<\/span> you<\/span> report<\/span> that<\/span> your<\/span> wellbeing<\/span> is<\/span> positive.<\/span> So<\/span> healing<\/span> can<\/span> be<\/span> found<\/span> in<\/span> culture<\/span> and<\/span> identity,<\/span> and<\/span> it<\/span> can<\/span> be<\/span> a<\/span> shared<\/span> experience.<\/span> And<\/span> it's<\/span> connected<\/span> to<\/span> religious,<\/span> spiritual,<\/span> and<\/span> community<\/span> practice.<\/span> And<\/span> healing<\/span> can<\/span> also<\/span> look<\/span> through<\/span> social<\/span> action,<\/span> protests,<\/span> and<\/span> social<\/span> justice.<\/span> So<\/span> kind<\/span> of<\/span> rethinking<\/span> about<\/span> how<\/span> we<\/span> see<\/span> individual<\/span> in<\/span> trauma<\/span> informed<\/span> practice<\/span> to<\/span> really<\/span> connecting<\/span> our<\/span> approaches<\/span> to<\/span> intersectionality<\/span> and<\/span> looking<\/span> towards<\/span> healing<\/span> centered<\/span> engagement.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: So<\/span> when<\/span> we<\/span> were<\/span> chatting<\/span> with<\/span> BC<\/span> campus<\/span> and<\/span> the<\/span> ministry<\/span> about<\/span> this<\/span> particular<\/span> session,<\/span> there<\/span> seemed<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> a<\/span> lot<\/span> of<\/span> interest<\/span> to<\/span> look<\/span> at<\/span> intersectionality<\/span> and<\/span> equity<\/span> based<\/span> practices.<\/span> When<\/span> we<\/span> were<\/span> thinking<\/span> about<\/span> working<\/span> with<\/span> students<\/span> around<\/span> education,<\/span> around<\/span> supporting<\/span> survivors,<\/span> around<\/span> reporting<\/span> investigation<\/span> adjudication.<\/span> And<\/span> when<\/span> I<\/span> had<\/span> the<\/span> pleasure<\/span> of<\/span> connecting<\/span> with<\/span> Shiloh<\/span> on<\/span> this<\/span> session,<\/span> we<\/span> actually<\/span> decided<\/span> we<\/span> wanted<\/span> to<\/span> start<\/span> by<\/span> talking<\/span> about<\/span> workplace<\/span> staff<\/span> and<\/span> leadership<\/span> as<\/span> we<\/span> move<\/span> into<\/span> then<\/span> speaking<\/span> about<\/span> some<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> other<\/span> topics.<\/span> Research<\/span> suggests<\/span> that<\/span> organizations<\/span> should<\/span> routinely<\/span> survey<\/span> the<\/span> demographics<\/span> and<\/span> other<\/span> characteristics<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> populations<\/span> served<\/span> and<\/span> recruit<\/span> a<\/span> workforce<\/span> of<\/span> similar<\/span> composition.<\/span> This<\/span> includes<\/span> people<\/span> in<\/span> leadership<\/span> and<\/span> in<\/span> positions<\/span> across<\/span> the<\/span> institution.<\/span> It's<\/span> more<\/span> than<\/span> about<\/span> hiring<\/span> practices.<\/span> It's<\/span> about<\/span> how<\/span> we<\/span> support<\/span> people<\/span> to<\/span> stay<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> work.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: I<\/span> think<\/span> one<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> pieces<\/span> that's<\/span> often<\/span> the<\/span> top<\/span> on<\/span> my<\/span> mind<\/span> is<\/span> the<\/span> impact<\/span> of<\/span> vicarious<\/span> trauma<\/span> and<\/span> those<\/span> of<\/span> us<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> doing<\/span> frontline<\/span> service<\/span> provision.<\/span> And<\/span> addressing<\/span> vicarious<\/span> trauma<\/span> is<\/span> key<\/span> in<\/span> helping<\/span> to<\/span> support<\/span> workplace<\/span> wellbeing.<\/span> When<\/span> service<\/span> providers<\/span> work<\/span> directly<\/span> with<\/span> people<\/span> who<\/span> have<\/span> been<\/span> subjected<\/span> to<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence,<\/span> they<\/span> are<\/span> often<\/span> exposed<\/span> to<\/span> trauma<\/span> daily.<\/span> Vicarious<\/span> trauma<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> term<\/span> used<\/span> to<\/span> describe<\/span> what<\/span> has<\/span> become<\/span> known<\/span> as<\/span> the<\/span> cost<\/span> of<\/span> care<\/span> for<\/span> others.<\/span> It<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> belief<\/span> that<\/span> those<\/span> working<\/span> with<\/span> trauma<\/span> survivors<\/span> experience<\/span> vicarious<\/span> trauma<\/span> because<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> work<\/span> that<\/span> they<\/span> do.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: I'd<\/span> also<\/span> say<\/span> that<\/span> after<\/span> doing<\/span> this<\/span> work<\/span> for<\/span> a<\/span> number<\/span> of<\/span> years,<\/span> vicarious<\/span> trauma<\/span> also<\/span> includes<\/span> the<\/span> impact<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> systems<\/span> that<\/span> we<\/span> work<\/span> in<\/span> on<\/span> us.<\/span> When<\/span> we<\/span> work<\/span> with<\/span> colleagues<\/span> who<\/span> don't<\/span> respect<\/span> the<\/span> work<\/span> that<\/span> we<\/span> do<\/span> or<\/span> within<\/span> systems<\/span> that<\/span> are<\/span> rigid<\/span> and<\/span> offer<\/span> no<\/span> flexibility,<\/span> this<\/span> also<\/span> causes<\/span> trauma.<\/span> So<\/span> the<\/span> support<\/span> you<\/span> get<\/span> as<\/span> a<\/span> worker<\/span> and<\/span> the<\/span> barriers<\/span> you<\/span> face<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> institution<\/span> can<\/span> further<\/span> create<\/span> a<\/span> negative<\/span> impact<\/span> on<\/span> health<\/span> and<\/span> wellbeing.<\/span> Without<\/span> being<\/span> addressed,<\/span> this<\/span> vicarious<\/span> trauma<\/span> can<\/span> lead<\/span> to<\/span> employee<\/span> burnout<\/span> and<\/span> high<\/span> turnover,<\/span> which<\/span> I<\/span> would<\/span> say<\/span> I<\/span> have<\/span> witnessed<\/span> happening<\/span> across<\/span> the<\/span> country<\/span> in<\/span> roles<\/span> similar<\/span> to<\/span> those<\/span> of<\/span> us<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> doing<\/span> this<\/span> work.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Now,<\/span> for<\/span> those<\/span> of<\/span> you<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> working<\/span> with<\/span> and<\/span> supporting<\/span> workers<\/span> in<\/span> this<\/span> area,<\/span> we<\/span> also<\/span> wanted<\/span> to<\/span> provide<\/span> you<\/span> with<\/span> some<\/span> tips<\/span> for<\/span> your<\/span> back<\/span> pocket.<\/span> So<\/span> here<\/span> are<\/span> a<\/span> few<\/span> key<\/span> points<\/span> to<\/span> consider<\/span> in<\/span> building<\/span> stronger<\/span> teams<\/span> in<\/span> anti-violence<\/span> work<\/span> on<\/span> campuses.<\/span> The<\/span> first<\/span> is<\/span> to<\/span> provide<\/span> clinical<\/span> supervision<\/span> for<\/span> staff<\/span> teams<\/span> that<\/span> is<\/span> not<\/span> connected<\/span> to<\/span> performance<\/span> or<\/span> management.<\/span> The<\/span> second,<\/span> offer<\/span> permanent<\/span> positions<\/span> as<\/span> opposed<\/span> to<\/span> contract<\/span> positions.<\/span> Develop<\/span> and<\/span> support<\/span> a<\/span> network<\/span> of<\/span> frontline<\/span> workers<\/span> to<\/span> break<\/span> isolation.<\/span> And<\/span> here's<\/span> a<\/span> call<\/span> out<\/span> for<\/span> our<\/span> provincial<\/span> colleagues.<\/span> Help<\/span> us<\/span> to<\/span> ensure<\/span> that<\/span> we<\/span> are<\/span> able<\/span> to<\/span> have<\/span> conversations<\/span> like<\/span> this<\/span> on<\/span> an<\/span> ongoing<\/span> basis.<\/span> One<\/span> time<\/span> is<\/span> really<\/span> wonderful.<\/span> I<\/span> would<\/span> get<\/span> to<\/span> put<\/span> faces<\/span> to<\/span> names.<\/span> It's<\/span> powerful<\/span> to<\/span> allow<\/span> us<\/span> and<\/span> build<\/span> opportunities<\/span> for<\/span> us<\/span> to<\/span> continue<\/span> these<\/span> conversations,<\/span> and<\/span> to<\/span> co-create.<\/span> Develop<\/span> and<\/span> support<\/span> ...<\/span> Oh,<\/span> I'm<\/span> going<\/span> back<\/span> into<\/span> that.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Support<\/span> ongoing<\/span> professional<\/span> training.<\/span> Another<\/span> is<\/span> to<\/span> develop<\/span> workloads<\/span> that<\/span> are<\/span> balanced<\/span> with<\/span> individual<\/span> and<\/span> community<\/span> work.<\/span> Provide<\/span> opportunities<\/span> for<\/span> leadership<\/span> and<\/span> collaboration<\/span> with<\/span> colleagues<\/span> and<\/span> influence<\/span> decision<\/span> making.<\/span> Ensure<\/span> time<\/span> off<\/span> to<\/span> promote<\/span> a<\/span> workplace<\/span> that<\/span> supports<\/span> self<\/span> care.<\/span> And<\/span> this<\/span> is<\/span> time<\/span> off<\/span> where<\/span> you<\/span> actually<\/span> leave<\/span> the<\/span> work<\/span> phone<\/span> in<\/span> a<\/span> drawer,<\/span> your<\/span> work<\/span> email<\/span> turned<\/span> off.<\/span> encourage<\/span> and<\/span> celebrate<\/span> ideas,<\/span> achievements,<\/span> and<\/span> milestones.<\/span> And<\/span> the<\/span> last<\/span> and<\/span> not<\/span> final<\/span> point,<\/span> is<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> open<\/span> to<\/span> challenges<\/span> to<\/span> your<\/span> status<\/span> quo.<\/span> Be<\/span> open<\/span> to<\/span> new<\/span> ways<\/span> of<\/span> doing<\/span> the<\/span> work<\/span> in<\/span> your<\/span> offices<\/span> and<\/span> on<\/span> your<\/span> campus.<\/span> It<\/span> should<\/span> be<\/span> ever<\/span> evolving.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Another<\/span> piece<\/span> I'd<\/span> like<\/span> to<\/span> highlight,<\/span> and<\/span> it's<\/span> in<\/span> reflection<\/span> to<\/span> the<\/span> students<\/span> who<\/span> gathered<\/span> in<\/span> that<\/span> circle<\/span> this<\/span> morning<\/span> and<\/span> shared<\/span> their<\/span> perspectives<\/span> with<\/span> us,<\/span> is<\/span> the<\/span> importance<\/span> of<\/span> mentorship<\/span> in<\/span> this<\/span> work.<\/span> This<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> call<\/span> to<\/span> action<\/span> to<\/span> those<\/span> of<\/span> us<\/span> in<\/span> this<\/span> room<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> in<\/span> positions<\/span> of<\/span> power<\/span> and<\/span> influence,<\/span> recognizing<\/span> the<\/span> nuance<\/span> and<\/span> complexities<\/span> of<\/span> that.<\/span> It's<\/span> on<\/span> us<\/span> to<\/span> provide<\/span> opportunities<\/span> and<\/span> mentorship<\/span> for<\/span> youths<\/span> so<\/span> that<\/span> they<\/span> can<\/span> move<\/span> into<\/span> our<\/span> roles.<\/span> This<\/span> includes<\/span> ourselves<\/span> engaging<\/span> in<\/span> ongoing<\/span> reflection<\/span> and<\/span> work<\/span> to<\/span> critically<\/span> engage<\/span> with<\/span> our<\/span> own<\/span> experiences<\/span> of<\/span> power<\/span> privilege,<\/span> and<\/span> unlearn<\/span> as<\/span> we<\/span> continue<\/span> to<\/span> learn<\/span> together.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: So<\/span> I'm<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> talk<\/span> a<\/span> little<\/span> bit<\/span> about,<\/span> so<\/span> now<\/span> that<\/span> we're<\/span> staff<\/span> members<\/span> and<\/span> we<\/span> have<\/span> all<\/span> those<\/span> supports<\/span> in<\/span> place<\/span> and<\/span> are<\/span> working<\/span> in<\/span> our<\/span> institutions.<\/span> So<\/span> how<\/span> do<\/span> we<\/span> support<\/span> people?<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> challenge<\/span> us<\/span> to<\/span> move<\/span> away<\/span> from<\/span> ticking<\/span> boxes,<\/span> but<\/span> how<\/span> do<\/span> we<\/span> fall<\/span> into<\/span> that?<\/span> It's<\/span> the<\/span> questions<\/span> we<\/span> ask.<\/span> It's<\/span> the<\/span> resources<\/span> we<\/span> give<\/span> people<\/span> that<\/span> limit<\/span> their<\/span> healing.<\/span> And<\/span> we<\/span> get<\/span> into<\/span> routine<\/span> ruts.<\/span> I<\/span> had<\/span> a<\/span> staff<\/span> member<\/span> that<\/span> pulled<\/span> me<\/span> aside<\/span> and<\/span> was<\/span> like,<\/span> \"Wow,<\/span> I'm<\/span> noticing<\/span> we're<\/span> doing<\/span> the<\/span> same<\/span> thing<\/span> with<\/span> each<\/span> person.\"<\/span> But<\/span> that's<\/span> not<\/span> what<\/span> support<\/span> should<\/span> look<\/span> like.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> I<\/span> challenge<\/span> you<\/span> all.<\/span> We<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> move<\/span> away<\/span> from<\/span> the<\/span> counseling<\/span> model<\/span> with<\/span> scheduled<\/span> appointments.<\/span> We<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> work<\/span> outside<\/span> of<\/span> those<\/span> boxes.<\/span> We<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> meet<\/span> people<\/span> where<\/span> they<\/span> feel<\/span> most<\/span> comfortable.<\/span> I<\/span> was<\/span> invited<\/span> to<\/span> an<\/span> Aboriginal<\/span> Programs<\/span> and<\/span> Services<\/span> Center,<\/span> and<\/span> to<\/span> have<\/span> a<\/span> session.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: And<\/span> after<\/span> our<\/span> session,<\/span> I<\/span> asked<\/span> the<\/span> student,<\/span> \"So<\/span> how<\/span> can<\/span> I<\/span> support<\/span> you<\/span> and<\/span> help<\/span> you?\"<\/span> And<\/span> she<\/span> responded<\/span> by,<\/span> \"Why<\/span> don't<\/span> you<\/span> just<\/span> kind<\/span> of<\/span> drop<\/span> in<\/span> once<\/span> a<\/span> week<\/span> and<\/span> check<\/span> in<\/span> on<\/span> me?\"<\/span> And<\/span> then<\/span> we<\/span> would<\/span> have<\/span> spontaneous<\/span> support<\/span> sessions<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> place<\/span> that<\/span> she<\/span> felt<\/span> most<\/span> safe<\/span> and<\/span> comfortable<\/span> on<\/span> campus.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> was<\/span> like,<\/span> whoa.<\/span> It<\/span> is<\/span> important<\/span> to<\/span> listen<\/span> and<\/span> be<\/span> there<\/span> and<\/span> do<\/span> what<\/span> she<\/span> needed,<\/span> because<\/span> that's<\/span> what<\/span> support<\/span> can<\/span> look<\/span> like.<\/span> We<\/span> also<\/span> have<\/span> to<\/span> look<\/span> at<\/span> specialized<\/span> support.<\/span> So<\/span> in<\/span> instances<\/span> where<\/span> women,<\/span> men,<\/span> or<\/span> gender<\/span> diverse,<\/span> gender<\/span> queer<\/span> folks<\/span> discuss<\/span> their<\/span> experiences<\/span> of<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence<\/span> with<\/span> counselors<\/span> or<\/span> peers,<\/span> thinking<\/span> about<\/span> they<\/span> might<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> share<\/span> their<\/span> experience<\/span> with<\/span> someone<\/span> who's<\/span> a<\/span> peer,<\/span> someone<\/span> who<\/span> has<\/span> shared<\/span> background,<\/span> from<\/span> the<\/span> same<\/span> racialized<\/span> background,<\/span> same<\/span> faith.<\/span> So<\/span> an<\/span> example<\/span> would<\/span> be<\/span> a<\/span> Muslim<\/span> woman<\/span> who<\/span> may<\/span> prefer<\/span> a<\/span> counselor<\/span> who<\/span> shares<\/span> their<\/span> faith<\/span> and<\/span> understands<\/span> how<\/span> Islamophobia<\/span> is<\/span> part<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> context<\/span> of<\/span> her<\/span> experience<\/span> of<\/span> her<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence,<\/span> and<\/span> how<\/span> healing<\/span> might<\/span> look<\/span> like<\/span> for<\/span> her.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: And<\/span> so<\/span> through<\/span> this,<\/span> we<\/span> also<\/span> have<\/span> to<\/span> think<\/span> about<\/span> accessibility.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> when<\/span> we<\/span> think<\/span> of<\/span> our<\/span> offices,<\/span> our<\/span> protocols,<\/span> our<\/span> outreach,<\/span> our<\/span> support<\/span> spaces,<\/span> is<\/span> it<\/span> accessible<\/span> for<\/span> all<\/span> campus<\/span> community<\/span> members?<\/span> Is<\/span> it<\/span> accessible<\/span> for<\/span> people<\/span> with<\/span> vision<\/span> disabilities,<\/span> deafness<\/span> or<\/span> being<\/span> hard<\/span> appearing,<\/span> intellectual<\/span> or<\/span> developmental<\/span> learning<\/span> and<\/span> mental<\/span> health<\/span> disabilities?<\/span> Accessibility<\/span> can<\/span> include,<\/span> but<\/span> is<\/span> not<\/span> limited<\/span> to<\/span> providing<\/span> support<\/span> workers<\/span> and<\/span> ensuring<\/span> ASL,<\/span> braille,<\/span> and<\/span> audio<\/span> or<\/span> visual<\/span> representation<\/span> is<\/span> there.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> we<\/span> built<\/span> this<\/span> framework<\/span> to<\/span> understand<\/span> how<\/span> we<\/span> can<\/span> do<\/span> support<\/span> using<\/span> the<\/span> six<\/span> C's.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> confidentiality<\/span> is<\/span> huge,<\/span> and<\/span> it<\/span> was<\/span> spoke<\/span> about<\/span> also<\/span> within<\/span> the<\/span> student's<\/span> circle.<\/span> Maintaining<\/span> and<\/span> protecting<\/span> personal<\/span> information,<\/span> only<\/span> sharing<\/span> what<\/span> you've<\/span> been<\/span> given<\/span> permission<\/span> to<\/span> share,<\/span> and<\/span> for<\/span> what<\/span> reason.<\/span> Explaining<\/span> the<\/span> limits<\/span> of<\/span> confidentiality,<\/span> control.<\/span> This<\/span> is<\/span> so<\/span> that<\/span> survivors<\/span> have<\/span> full<\/span> control<\/span> of<\/span> when<\/span> and<\/span> where<\/span> the<\/span> conversation<\/span> is<\/span> being<\/span> held,<\/span> what<\/span> is<\/span> being<\/span> shared.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: They<\/span> have<\/span> control<\/span> of<\/span> what<\/span> is<\/span> being<\/span> shared,<\/span> who's<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> room<\/span> with<\/span> them,<\/span> pacing<\/span> and<\/span> timing,<\/span> that<\/span> this<\/span> is<\/span> all<\/span> in<\/span> their<\/span> control<\/span> and<\/span> they<\/span> can<\/span> determine<\/span> what<\/span> they<\/span> share.<\/span> Also<\/span> having<\/span> choice.<\/span> Survivors<\/span> having<\/span> choice<\/span> over<\/span> what's<\/span> being<\/span> discussed,<\/span> over<\/span> what<\/span> information<\/span> you're<\/span> sharing<\/span> with<\/span> them.<\/span> And<\/span> it<\/span> could<\/span> be<\/span> related<\/span> to<\/span> resources,<\/span> safety<\/span> planning,<\/span> or<\/span> reporting,<\/span> and<\/span> also<\/span> consent.<\/span> Ensuring<\/span> that<\/span> survivors<\/span> are<\/span> consenting<\/span> to<\/span> every<\/span> step<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> process,<\/span> that<\/span> you're<\/span> not<\/span> giving<\/span> ideas<\/span> and<\/span> through<\/span> excitement<\/span> that<\/span> they're<\/span> kind<\/span> of<\/span> following<\/span> along,<\/span> that<\/span> you're<\/span> checking<\/span> in<\/span> every<\/span> step<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> way.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: And<\/span> then<\/span> being<\/span> caring.<\/span> So<\/span> using<\/span> an<\/span> empathetic<\/span> approach,<\/span> listening,<\/span> believing,<\/span> and<\/span> empowering.<\/span> And<\/span> then<\/span> kind<\/span> of<\/span> pulling<\/span> it<\/span> back<\/span> to<\/span> healing<\/span> centered<\/span> engagement<\/span> around<\/span> community.<\/span> People<\/span> heal<\/span> through<\/span> communities,<\/span> activism.<\/span> When<\/span> people<\/span> feel<\/span> that<\/span> they<\/span> have<\/span> power<\/span> and<\/span> control,<\/span> people<\/span> are<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> feel<\/span> like<\/span> they<\/span> can<\/span> ...<\/span> It's<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> impact<\/span> all<\/span> the<\/span> other<\/span> C's.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> people<\/span> heal<\/span> as<\/span> a<\/span> collective.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> when<\/span> you're<\/span> thinking<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> support<\/span> work<\/span> you<\/span> do,<\/span> think<\/span> about<\/span> maybe<\/span> areas<\/span> where<\/span> you<\/span> might<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> improve<\/span> and<\/span> constantly<\/span> reflect,<\/span> and<\/span> being<\/span> self<\/span> aware<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> work<\/span> that<\/span> we're<\/span> doing<\/span> when<\/span> we<\/span> go<\/span> back<\/span> to<\/span> our<\/span> campuses.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: I<\/span> think<\/span> another<\/span> C<\/span> I'm<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> add<\/span> in<\/span> on<\/span> the<\/span> fly,<\/span> and<\/span> also<\/span> it's<\/span> a<\/span> bit<\/span> of<\/span> a<\/span> hats<\/span> off<\/span> to<\/span> colleagues<\/span> I<\/span> see<\/span> over<\/span> here<\/span> on<\/span> the<\/span> side<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> room,<\/span> is<\/span> it's<\/span> about<\/span> collaboration.<\/span> I<\/span> mean,<\/span> those<\/span> of<\/span> us<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> doing<\/span> work<\/span> on<\/span> campuses<\/span> are<\/span> doing<\/span> so<\/span> on<\/span> the<\/span> backs<\/span> of<\/span> so<\/span> many<\/span> others.<\/span> We<\/span> are<\/span> moving<\/span> into<\/span> generations<\/span> and<\/span> decades<\/span> of<\/span> work<\/span> that<\/span> have<\/span> been<\/span> done<\/span> by<\/span> campus<\/span> community<\/span> members,<\/span> activists,<\/span> and<\/span> most<\/span> importantly<\/span> by<\/span> our<\/span> community<\/span> based<\/span> organizations.<\/span> I<\/span> mean,<\/span> I<\/span> see<\/span> Ending<\/span> Violence<\/span> Association<\/span> folks<\/span> sitting<\/span> over<\/span> there,<\/span> and<\/span> I<\/span> say<\/span> thank<\/span> you<\/span> for<\/span> your<\/span> work.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: It<\/span> is<\/span> because<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> work<\/span> that<\/span> they're<\/span> doing<\/span> that<\/span> we're<\/span> able<\/span> to<\/span> do<\/span> what<\/span> we're<\/span> doing.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> collaboration<\/span> is<\/span> key,<\/span> especially<\/span> when<\/span> we<\/span> look<\/span> at,<\/span> what<\/span> does<\/span> care<\/span> look<\/span> for<\/span> diverse<\/span> communities<\/span> of<\/span> campus<\/span> community<\/span> members?<\/span> And<\/span> maybe<\/span> it's<\/span> creating<\/span> MoUs<\/span> with<\/span> community<\/span> based<\/span> organizations,<\/span> ensuring<\/span> that<\/span> we're<\/span> able<\/span> to<\/span> support<\/span> students,<\/span> faculty,<\/span> and<\/span> staff<\/span> in<\/span> accessing<\/span> the<\/span> support<\/span> services<\/span> where<\/span> they're<\/span> most<\/span> comfortable<\/span> accessing<\/span> them.<\/span> And<\/span> it<\/span> may<\/span> not<\/span> be<\/span> on<\/span> our<\/span> campuses.<\/span> It<\/span> could<\/span> be<\/span> in<\/span> their<\/span> home<\/span> communities,<\/span> or<\/span> it<\/span> could<\/span> be<\/span> in<\/span> adjacent<\/span> communities.<\/span> So<\/span> collaboration,<\/span> I<\/span> think,<\/span> is<\/span> key.<\/span> Seven<\/span> C's.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: So<\/span> conscious<\/span> of<\/span> time,<\/span> we're<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> move<\/span> into<\/span> prevention<\/span> education.<\/span> Because<\/span> prevention<\/span> education<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> key<\/span> component<\/span> when<\/span> looking<\/span> to<\/span> support<\/span> the<\/span> prevention<\/span> of<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence<\/span> and<\/span> misconduct<\/span> on<\/span> post<\/span> secondary<\/span> campuses.<\/span> Our<\/span> approach<\/span> to<\/span> education<\/span> is<\/span> informed<\/span> by<\/span> the<\/span> following<\/span> principles.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> may<\/span> lose<\/span> count,<\/span> so<\/span> please<\/span> bear<\/span> with<\/span> me.<\/span> First,<\/span> to<\/span> provide<\/span> culturally<\/span> grounded<\/span> gendered<\/span> analysis<\/span> when<\/span> developing<\/span> and<\/span> implementing<\/span> educational<\/span> opportunities.<\/span> This<\/span> approach<\/span> is<\/span> one<\/span> that<\/span> is<\/span> mindful<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> myriad<\/span> of<\/span> experiences<\/span> that<\/span> may<\/span> impact<\/span> campus<\/span> community<\/span> members.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: The<\/span> second<\/span> is<\/span> developing<\/span> education<\/span> and<\/span> training<\/span> opportunities<\/span> that<\/span> are<\/span> positive,<\/span> fun,<\/span> engaging,<\/span> build<\/span> curiosity<\/span> and<\/span> commitment<\/span> to<\/span> change,<\/span> and<\/span> are<\/span> sex<\/span> positive.<\/span> The<\/span> third,<\/span> trauma<\/span> informed<\/span> prevention<\/span> promotes<\/span> empowerment<\/span> and<\/span> guides<\/span> an<\/span> approach<\/span> that<\/span> assumes<\/span> that<\/span> all<\/span> campus<\/span> community<\/span> members<\/span> have<\/span> experienced<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence<\/span> regardless<\/span> of<\/span> whether<\/span> they<\/span> have<\/span> or<\/span> not.<\/span> It<\/span> provides<\/span> us<\/span> with<\/span> the<\/span> opportunity<\/span> to<\/span> normalize<\/span> the<\/span> conversation<\/span> and<\/span> move<\/span> from<\/span> silence<\/span> to<\/span> changing<\/span> misconceptions,<\/span> that<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence<\/span> is<\/span> normal<\/span> or<\/span> acceptable.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: The<\/span> fourth<\/span> is<\/span> survivor<\/span> centered,<\/span> creating<\/span> a<\/span> supportive<\/span> learning<\/span> environment.<\/span> One<\/span> that<\/span> assumes<\/span> there<\/span> are<\/span> survivors<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> room.<\/span> Such<\/span> education<\/span> seeks<\/span> to<\/span> raise<\/span> awareness<\/span> around<\/span> a<\/span> survivor<\/span> centered<\/span> approach<\/span> and<\/span> prioritizes<\/span> the<\/span> rights,<\/span> needs,<\/span> and<\/span> wishes<\/span> of<\/span> survivors.<\/span> The<\/span> fifth<\/span> is<\/span> acknowledging<\/span> that<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> mechanism<\/span> of<\/span> power,<\/span> and<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> product<\/span> of<\/span> colonialism,<\/span> heteronormativity,<\/span> patriarchy,<\/span> as<\/span> well<\/span> as<\/span> other<\/span> systems<\/span> of<\/span> oppression.<\/span> The<\/span> sixth<\/span> is<\/span> to<\/span> make<\/span> safe<\/span> and<\/span> brave<\/span> spaces<\/span> for<\/span> discussions,<\/span> questions,<\/span> and<\/span> thoughtful<\/span> engagement<\/span> for<\/span> people<\/span> to<\/span> reflect<\/span> upon<\/span> and<\/span> speak<\/span> to<\/span> their<\/span> experiences<\/span> in<\/span> their<\/span> ways<\/span> of<\/span> healing.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: The<\/span> seventh,<\/span> and<\/span> I<\/span> love<\/span> research,<\/span> if<\/span> any<\/span> of<\/span> you<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> geek<\/span> out<\/span> on<\/span> education<\/span> research<\/span> later.<\/span> Research<\/span> on<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence<\/span> prevention<\/span> education<\/span> demonstrates<\/span> that<\/span> the<\/span> most<\/span> effective<\/span> approach<\/span> to<\/span> education<\/span> for<\/span> students<\/span> is<\/span> through<\/span> to<\/span> peer<\/span> to<\/span> peer<\/span> approaches.<\/span> It's<\/span> important<\/span> to<\/span> value<\/span> and<\/span> support<\/span> peer<\/span> to<\/span> peer<\/span> interactions<\/span> and<\/span> informal<\/span> discussions<\/span> on<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence.<\/span> It's<\/span> equally<\/span> important,<\/span> if<\/span> not<\/span> more<\/span> so,<\/span> to<\/span> fund<\/span> these<\/span> initiatives.<\/span> As<\/span> I've<\/span> heard<\/span> from<\/span> student<\/span> activists<\/span> and<\/span> student<\/span> survivors<\/span> across<\/span> the<\/span> country,<\/span> they're<\/span> asking<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> paid<\/span> for<\/span> their<\/span> work.<\/span> Heard<\/span> that<\/span> so<\/span> loud<\/span> and<\/span> clear<\/span> over<\/span> the<\/span> last<\/span> six<\/span> months.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: The<\/span> next<\/span> is<\/span> to<\/span> ensure<\/span> that<\/span> prevention<\/span> education<\/span> materials<\/span> are<\/span> equally<\/span> accessible<\/span> to<\/span> community<\/span> members<\/span> with<\/span> disabilities.<\/span> Online<\/span> training<\/span> modules<\/span> and<\/span> videos<\/span> should<\/span> be<\/span> captioned,<\/span> and<\/span> learners<\/span> provided<\/span> with<\/span> transcripts.<\/span> In-person<\/span> sessions<\/span> can<\/span> be<\/span> made<\/span> accessible<\/span> by<\/span> including<\/span> a<\/span> section<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> promotional<\/span> material<\/span> that<\/span> indicates<\/span> where<\/span> community<\/span> members<\/span> can<\/span> request<\/span> accommodations.<\/span> And<\/span> it's<\/span> doing<\/span> that<\/span> in<\/span> a<\/span> way<\/span> that's<\/span> not<\/span> making<\/span> that<\/span> ask<\/span> a<\/span> bureaucratic<\/span> nightmare.<\/span> There's<\/span> ways<\/span> to<\/span> do<\/span> it<\/span> that<\/span> are<\/span> simple,<\/span> streamlined,<\/span> and<\/span> consistent.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Another<\/span> key<\/span> element<\/span> to<\/span> accessibility<\/span> is<\/span> to<\/span> work<\/span> alongside<\/span> of<\/span> campus<\/span> community<\/span> members<\/span> with<\/span> disabilities<\/span> in<\/span> co-creating<\/span> education<\/span> modules<\/span> and<\/span> initiatives,<\/span> ensure<\/span> that<\/span> their<\/span> voices<\/span> are<\/span> centered<\/span> and<\/span> at<\/span> the<\/span> table.<\/span> And<\/span> because<\/span> we're<\/span> talking<\/span> about<\/span> intersectionality,<\/span> the<\/span> final<\/span> one<\/span> for<\/span> now<\/span> on<\/span> this<\/span> list<\/span> is<\/span> to<\/span> consider<\/span> intersecting<\/span> identities<\/span> and<\/span> individual<\/span> and<\/span> group<\/span> lived<\/span> experiences.<\/span> They<\/span> must<\/span> be<\/span> centered<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> development<\/span> and<\/span> delivery<\/span> of<\/span> education<\/span> and<\/span> training<\/span> initiatives.<\/span> This<\/span> will<\/span> allow<\/span> for<\/span> education<\/span> training<\/span> to<\/span> speak<\/span> to<\/span> the<\/span> experiences<\/span> of<\/span> those<\/span> most<\/span> impacted<\/span> by<\/span> sexual<\/span> violence.<\/span> Explore<\/span> the<\/span> impacts<\/span> of<\/span> interlocking<\/span> oppressions,<\/span> as<\/span> well<\/span> as<\/span> educate<\/span> and<\/span> encourage<\/span> others<\/span> to<\/span> step<\/span> up<\/span> and<\/span> become<\/span> active<\/span> bystanders.<\/span> This<\/span> also<\/span> allows<\/span> us<\/span> opportunities<\/span> to<\/span> celebrate<\/span> the<\/span> resiliency<\/span> in<\/span> our<\/span> diverse<\/span> communities.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Do<\/span> we<\/span> have<\/span> time?<\/span> I<\/span> did<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> share<\/span> a<\/span> promising<\/span> practice.<\/span> Because<\/span> Shiloh<\/span> said,<\/span> \"We<\/span> should<\/span> give<\/span> people<\/span> tangible<\/span> things<\/span> to<\/span> walk<\/span> out<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> room<\/span> with,\"<\/span> which<\/span> I<\/span> agree.<\/span> I<\/span> don't<\/span> know<\/span> why<\/span> you<\/span> don't<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> just<\/span> talk<\/span> about<\/span> theory.<\/span> So<\/span> a<\/span> promising<\/span> practice<\/span> in<\/span> education<\/span> includes<\/span> developing<\/span> core<\/span> messaging<\/span> which<\/span> can<\/span> be<\/span> built<\/span> off<\/span> of<\/span> in<\/span> meaningful<\/span> and<\/span> relevant<\/span> ways<\/span> for<\/span> diverse<\/span> communities.<\/span> Can't<\/span> believe<\/span> I'm<\/span> using<\/span> this<\/span> as<\/span> an<\/span> example,<\/span> but<\/span> an<\/span> example<\/span> of<\/span> this<\/span> is<\/span> both<\/span> UBC<\/span> and<\/span> SFU's<\/span> Sexual<\/span> Assault<\/span> Awareness<\/span> Month.<\/span> So<\/span> for<\/span> those<\/span> of<\/span> you<\/span> who<\/span> aren't<\/span> familiar<\/span> with<\/span> SAAM,<\/span> SAAM<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> month<\/span> long<\/span> interactive<\/span> series<\/span> of<\/span> events<\/span> that<\/span> has<\/span> been<\/span> developed<\/span> in<\/span> a<\/span> way<\/span> that<\/span> allows<\/span> the<\/span> entire<\/span> campus<\/span> community<\/span> to<\/span> engage<\/span> in<\/span> conversations<\/span> around<\/span> anti-violence<\/span> in<\/span> a<\/span> myriad<\/span> of<\/span> ways.<\/span> So<\/span> there's<\/span> core<\/span> messaging<\/span> that<\/span> is<\/span> broadcasted<\/span> through<\/span> social<\/span> media,<\/span> on<\/span> posters,<\/span> in<\/span> blog<\/span> posts<\/span> and<\/span> stickers<\/span> and<\/span> buttons.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: And<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> pens,<\/span> I<\/span> don't<\/span> know,<\/span> chocolates.<\/span> The<\/span> idea<\/span> is<\/span> that<\/span> there's<\/span> a<\/span> baseline<\/span> understanding<\/span> that's<\/span> distributed<\/span> campus<\/span> wide.<\/span> And<\/span> for<\/span> those<\/span> of<\/span> us<\/span> with<\/span> multiple<\/span> campuses,<\/span> on<\/span> multiple<\/span> campuses.<\/span> And<\/span> then<\/span> there's<\/span> partnerships<\/span> built<\/span> with<\/span> diverse<\/span> campus<\/span> communities<\/span> to<\/span> develop<\/span> programming<\/span> that<\/span> will<\/span> speak<\/span> to<\/span> those<\/span> audiences<\/span> in<\/span> ways<\/span> that<\/span> makes<\/span> sense<\/span> for<\/span> them.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> there's<\/span> strength<\/span> in<\/span> that.<\/span> There's<\/span> strength<\/span> in<\/span> looking<\/span> at<\/span> a<\/span> group<\/span> who<\/span> says,<\/span> \"You<\/span> know<\/span> what?<\/span> We<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> do<\/span> a<\/span> poetry<\/span> night.\"<\/span> We<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> have<\/span> a<\/span> panel<\/span> discussion<\/span> that<\/span> centers<\/span> on<\/span> this<\/span> piece<\/span> of<\/span> our<\/span> lived<\/span> realities,<\/span> or<\/span> these<\/span> pieces<\/span> of<\/span> things<\/span> that<\/span> we<\/span> really<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> know<\/span> more<\/span> about.<\/span> It's<\/span> about<\/span> inviting<\/span> people<\/span> into<\/span> conversations<\/span> and<\/span> co-creating<\/span> spaces<\/span> and<\/span> educational<\/span> learning<\/span> practices<\/span> that<\/span> make<\/span> sense<\/span> for<\/span> us<\/span> in<\/span> ways<\/span> that<\/span> we<\/span> can<\/span> build<\/span> upon<\/span> them<\/span> for<\/span> years<\/span> to<\/span> come.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: I'll<\/span> leave<\/span> it<\/span> at<\/span> that.<\/span> So<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> we<\/span> did<\/span> really<\/span> well<\/span> at<\/span> staying<\/span> to<\/span> our<\/span> 30<\/span> minutes.<\/span> One<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> other<\/span> pieces<\/span> that<\/span> I<\/span> wanted<\/span> to<\/span> highlight<\/span> is<\/span> that<\/span> Myrna,<\/span> who<\/span> will<\/span> be<\/span> joining<\/span> us<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> tomorrow<\/span> morning<\/span> to<\/span> talk<\/span> a<\/span> bit<\/span> about<\/span> investigations<\/span> and<\/span> reporting<\/span> and<\/span> adjudication.<\/span> So<\/span> we<\/span> decided<\/span> not<\/span> to<\/span> touch<\/span> on<\/span> the<\/span> considerations<\/span> of<\/span> equity<\/span> based<\/span> approaches<\/span> and<\/span> intersectionality,<\/span> because<\/span> I<\/span> have<\/span> a<\/span> sense<\/span> that<\/span> Myrna<\/span> will<\/span> be<\/span> be<\/span> bringing<\/span> a<\/span> lens<\/span> to<\/span> that<\/span> tomorrow.<\/span> And<\/span> if<\/span> not,<\/span> I'm<\/span> happy<\/span> to<\/span> follow<\/span> up<\/span> with<\/span> an<\/span> email.<\/span> So<\/span> Shiloh.<\/span> I'm<\/span> not<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> actually<\/span> put<\/span> that<\/span> on<\/span> Shiloh.<\/span> So<\/span> now<\/span> we're<\/span> opening<\/span> up<\/span> for<\/span> a<\/span> Q<\/span> and<\/span> A,<\/span> I<\/span> understand,<\/span> and<\/span> I<\/span> wonder<\/span> if<\/span> maybe<\/span> I<\/span> should<\/span> go<\/span> out<\/span> with<\/span> the<\/span> mic<\/span> and<\/span> be-<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: We<\/span> both<\/span> could,<\/span> maybe.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: ...<\/span> a<\/span> mic<\/span> person.<\/span> Would<\/span> anyone<\/span> like<\/span> to<\/span> ask<\/span> some<\/span> questions?<\/span>\r\n\r\nAnna Elaine:[inaudible<\/span> 00:27:20].<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Thank<\/span> you.<\/span>\r\n\r\nAnna Elaine: No<\/span> problem.<\/span> Does<\/span> anybody<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> ask<\/span> a<\/span> question?<\/span> I<\/span> can<\/span> bring<\/span> the<\/span> microphone<\/span> to<\/span> you.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: Or<\/span> reflection<\/span> or<\/span> comments.<\/span>\r\n\r\nAnna Elaine: Anything.<\/span>\r\n\r\nSpeaker 6: Is<\/span> there<\/span> an<\/span> online<\/span> resource<\/span> you<\/span> can<\/span> recommend,<\/span> or<\/span> some<\/span> centralized<\/span> thing<\/span> that<\/span> if<\/span> you<\/span> want<\/span> to<\/span> refer<\/span> this<\/span> to<\/span> your<\/span> school,<\/span> you<\/span> can<\/span> just<\/span> say,<\/span> \"Hey,<\/span> look<\/span> this<\/span> up,<\/span> or<\/span> look<\/span> at<\/span> this?\"<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: In<\/span> terms<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> presentation<\/span> as<\/span> a<\/span> whole<\/span> or<\/span> any<\/span> specific<\/span> pieces?<\/span>\r\n\r\nSpeaker 6: Maybe<\/span> intersectionality,<\/span> for<\/span> example.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Ooh,<\/span> intersectionality<\/span> for<\/span> an<\/span> example.<\/span> We<\/span> also<\/span> open<\/span> up<\/span> answering<\/span> to<\/span> our<\/span> friends<\/span> and<\/span> colleagues<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> room.<\/span> I<\/span> mean,<\/span> what<\/span> I<\/span> could<\/span> commit<\/span> to<\/span> doing<\/span> is<\/span> to<\/span> find<\/span> some<\/span> resources<\/span> and<\/span> share<\/span> with<\/span> a<\/span> BC<\/span>campus<\/span> who's<\/span> organized,<\/span> and<\/span> then<\/span> we<\/span> could<\/span> share<\/span> with<\/span> you<\/span> maybe<\/span> in<\/span> two<\/span> weeks<\/span> some<\/span> followup<\/span> resources.<\/span> It's<\/span> always<\/span> okay<\/span> to<\/span> admit<\/span> we<\/span> don't<\/span> have<\/span> the<\/span> answers.<\/span>\r\n\r\nSpeaker 7: Thanks<\/span> so<\/span> much<\/span> for<\/span> your<\/span> presentation.<\/span> I<\/span> have<\/span> a<\/span> quick<\/span> question<\/span> for<\/span> you<\/span> just<\/span> regarding<\/span> best<\/span> practices.<\/span> I<\/span> know<\/span> today<\/span> we're<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> have<\/span> an<\/span> opportunity<\/span> to<\/span> witness<\/span> and<\/span> see<\/span> some<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> good<\/span> work<\/span> that's<\/span> being<\/span> done<\/span> at<\/span> other<\/span> institutions<\/span> across<\/span> the<\/span> province.<\/span> But<\/span> my<\/span> question<\/span> in<\/span> relation<\/span> to<\/span> intersectionality<\/span> and<\/span> reaching<\/span> the<\/span> audience<\/span> in<\/span> prevention,<\/span> is<\/span> oftentimes<\/span> I<\/span> find<\/span> that<\/span> the<\/span> impact<\/span> isn't<\/span> necessarily<\/span> felt<\/span> for<\/span> the<\/span> people,<\/span> or<\/span> the<\/span> message<\/span> isn't<\/span> heard<\/span> by<\/span> the<\/span> people<\/span> who<\/span> actually<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> hear<\/span> it.<\/span> The<\/span> people<\/span> who<\/span> attend<\/span> the<\/span> prevention<\/span> and<\/span> education<\/span> sessions<\/span> generally<\/span> are<\/span> people<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> there<\/span> that<\/span> have<\/span> the<\/span> lived<\/span> experience,<\/span> not<\/span> the<\/span> ones<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> perhaps<\/span> the<\/span> perpetrators<\/span> of<\/span> violence.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> my<\/span> question<\/span> is,<\/span> how<\/span> can<\/span> we<\/span> better<\/span> get<\/span> the<\/span> message<\/span> out<\/span> to<\/span> the<\/span> people<\/span> who<\/span> do<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> hear<\/span> it?<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: Yeah.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: Yeah.<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> looking<\/span> at<\/span> who<\/span> of<\/span> us,<\/span> too,<\/span> are<\/span> leading<\/span> those<\/span> sessions<\/span> too,<\/span> because<\/span> if<\/span> they<\/span> see<\/span> my<\/span> face<\/span> on<\/span> a<\/span> poster,<\/span> it<\/span> might<\/span> not<\/span> speak<\/span> to<\/span> their<\/span> community<\/span> or<\/span> their,<\/span> yeah.<\/span> So<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> it's<\/span> also<\/span> bringing<\/span> in<\/span> peers<\/span> and<\/span> students<\/span> to<\/span> lead<\/span> those<\/span> discussions<\/span> that<\/span> they<\/span> really<\/span> identify<\/span> with.<\/span> And<\/span> so<\/span> trying<\/span> to<\/span> find<\/span> student<\/span> leaders<\/span> on<\/span> campus.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> we're<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> talk<\/span> a<\/span> little,<\/span> like<\/span> healthy<\/span> masculinities<\/span> coordinator,<\/span> Alex,<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> is<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> room<\/span> somewhere.<\/span> Maybe<\/span> not.<\/span> No.<\/span> But<\/span> yeah,<\/span> involving<\/span> people<\/span> who<\/span> do<\/span> the<\/span> work<\/span> that<\/span> represent<\/span> different<\/span> communities,<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> really<\/span> big<\/span> thing.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: How<\/span> many<\/span> of<\/span> you<\/span> remember<\/span> the<\/span> Sony<\/span> Walkman?<\/span> Generations.<\/span> So<\/span> I<\/span> love<\/span> theory,<\/span> if<\/span> you<\/span> haven't<\/span> gathered<\/span> from<\/span> this<\/span> talk,<\/span> and<\/span> there<\/span> is<\/span> a<\/span> great<\/span> book<\/span> on<\/span> the<\/span> cultural<\/span> practices<\/span> of<\/span> knowledge<\/span> acquisition<\/span> when<\/span> it<\/span> comes<\/span> to<\/span> the<\/span> Sony<\/span> Walkman.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> would<\/span> think<\/span> about<\/span> it<\/span> in<\/span> terms<\/span> of<\/span> maybe<\/span> the<\/span> seat<\/span> belt.<\/span> That's<\/span> also<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> a<\/span> generational<\/span> thing.<\/span> Gosh,<\/span> I'm<\/span> old.<\/span> I<\/span> love<\/span> it.<\/span> But<\/span> when<\/span> we<\/span> think<\/span> about<\/span> wearing<\/span> seat<\/span> belts,<\/span> for<\/span> the<\/span> longest<\/span> time,<\/span> people<\/span> just<\/span> didn't<\/span> wear<\/span> seat<\/span> belts.<\/span> It<\/span> was<\/span> not<\/span> a<\/span> thing.<\/span> I<\/span> remember<\/span> riding<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> back<\/span> of<\/span> my<\/span> dad's<\/span> truck<\/span> down<\/span> the<\/span> highway.<\/span> Who<\/span> needed<\/span> a<\/span> seat<\/span> belt?<\/span> We<\/span> were<\/span> hanging<\/span> out<\/span> inside<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> truck.<\/span> And<\/span> an<\/span> education<\/span> campaign<\/span> that<\/span> was<\/span> multi-model<\/span> that<\/span> came<\/span> from<\/span> a<\/span> myriad<\/span> of<\/span> different<\/span> perspectives<\/span> changed<\/span> a<\/span> culture.<\/span> So<\/span> we're<\/span> talking<\/span> about<\/span> doing<\/span> something<\/span> really<\/span> big<\/span> here.<\/span> It's<\/span> not<\/span> doing<\/span> any<\/span> one<\/span> thing.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: It's<\/span> about<\/span> doing<\/span> a<\/span> whole<\/span> myriad<\/span> of<\/span> things<\/span> and<\/span> making<\/span> the<\/span> conversation<\/span> around<\/span> anti-violence<\/span> a<\/span> part<\/span> of<\/span> our<\/span> everyday<\/span> conversations.<\/span> How<\/span> do<\/span> we<\/span> normalize<\/span> it?<\/span> And<\/span> that<\/span> is<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> everything<\/span> from,<\/span> yes,<\/span> posters<\/span> on<\/span> the<\/span> back<\/span> of<\/span> washroom<\/span> stalls.<\/span> But<\/span> that's<\/span> not<\/span> the<\/span> only<\/span> thing.<\/span> It's<\/span> about<\/span> educating<\/span> student<\/span> leaders.<\/span> It's<\/span> about<\/span> having<\/span> the<\/span> education<\/span> within<\/span> modules<\/span> that<\/span> all<\/span> incoming<\/span> students<\/span> engage<\/span> with.<\/span> It's<\/span> about<\/span> changing<\/span> the<\/span> minds<\/span> of<\/span> those<\/span> of<\/span> us<\/span> on<\/span> campus<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> the<\/span> culture<\/span> keepers.<\/span> It's<\/span> staff,<\/span> it's<\/span> faculty.<\/span> We're<\/span> the<\/span> ones<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> keeping<\/span> culture<\/span> consistent<\/span> on<\/span> our<\/span> campus,<\/span> and<\/span> we<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> change.<\/span> It's<\/span> not<\/span> the<\/span> students<\/span> who<\/span> are<\/span> coming<\/span> for<\/span> four<\/span> to<\/span> five<\/span> years.<\/span> So<\/span> we<\/span> need<\/span> to<\/span> actually<\/span> shift<\/span> the<\/span> way<\/span> we<\/span> think<\/span> about<\/span> this<\/span> and<\/span> come<\/span> at<\/span> it<\/span> with<\/span> a<\/span> much<\/span> more<\/span> strategic,<\/span> comprehensive<\/span> approach.<\/span> And<\/span> it<\/span> takes<\/span> a<\/span> lot<\/span> of<\/span> resources<\/span> to<\/span> do<\/span> that.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> would<\/span> love<\/span> to<\/span> see<\/span> how<\/span> we<\/span> can<\/span> do<\/span> that<\/span> together.<\/span>\r\n\r\nSpeaker 8: Thank<\/span> you<\/span> so<\/span> much<\/span> for<\/span> the<\/span> presentation,<\/span> and<\/span> thank<\/span> you<\/span> for<\/span> highlighting<\/span> the<\/span> co-creation<\/span> aspect.<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> that's<\/span> something<\/span> students<\/span> really<\/span> appreciate,<\/span> is<\/span> being<\/span> able<\/span> to<\/span> actively<\/span> engage<\/span> in<\/span> those<\/span> conversations<\/span> and<\/span> be<\/span> invited,<\/span> and<\/span> not<\/span> just<\/span> having<\/span> to<\/span> kind<\/span> of<\/span> press<\/span> on<\/span> our<\/span> own.<\/span> But<\/span> something<\/span> I'm<\/span> really<\/span> curious<\/span> about<\/span> is,<\/span> how<\/span> do<\/span> you<\/span> transition<\/span> over<\/span> from<\/span> kind<\/span> of<\/span> a<\/span> holistic,<\/span> really<\/span> thorough<\/span> view<\/span> of<\/span> best<\/span> practices,<\/span> but<\/span> also<\/span> enforcing<\/span> minimum<\/span> standards?<\/span> Whether<\/span> that's<\/span> through<\/span> policies,<\/span> whether<\/span> that's<\/span> through<\/span> services<\/span> and<\/span> supports<\/span> that<\/span> are<\/span> offered.<\/span> Is<\/span> that<\/span> a<\/span> helpful<\/span> conversation<\/span> to<\/span> have?<\/span> What<\/span> does<\/span> it<\/span> look<\/span> like<\/span> to<\/span> enforce<\/span> those<\/span> things?<\/span> And<\/span> how<\/span> do<\/span> we<\/span> decide<\/span> what<\/span> those<\/span> things<\/span> are?<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: I<\/span> love<\/span> this<\/span> conversation,<\/span> because<\/span> it's<\/span> a<\/span> hard<\/span> one.<\/span> Going<\/span> back<\/span> to<\/span> my<\/span> researcher<\/span> hat,<\/span> there<\/span> is<\/span> research<\/span> on<\/span> mandatory<\/span> training.<\/span> It's<\/span> mostly<\/span> U.S.<\/span> based,<\/span> and<\/span> it's<\/span> pretty<\/span> new.<\/span> And<\/span> the<\/span> findings<\/span> right<\/span> now<\/span> are<\/span> mixed<\/span> in<\/span> terms<\/span> of<\/span> the<\/span> strengths<\/span> and<\/span> benefits<\/span> and<\/span> downfalls<\/span> of<\/span> mandatory<\/span> training.<\/span> And<\/span> in<\/span> conversations<\/span> with<\/span> unions<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> Canadian<\/span> context,<\/span> the<\/span> review<\/span> is<\/span> mixed.<\/span> Also,<\/span> hats<\/span> off<\/span> to<\/span> the<\/span> union<\/span> representatives<\/span> in<\/span> the<\/span> room.<\/span> Thank<\/span> you<\/span> for<\/span> the<\/span> work<\/span> that<\/span> you<\/span> do.<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> we're<\/span> still<\/span> learning.<\/span> There<\/span> are<\/span> no<\/span> best<\/span> practices<\/span> within<\/span> that<\/span> area.<\/span> There<\/span> is<\/span> promising<\/span> practices<\/span> and<\/span> things<\/span> we<\/span> think<\/span> we<\/span> know.<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> Quebec<\/span> right<\/span> now<\/span> as<\/span> a<\/span> province<\/span> is<\/span> where<\/span> a<\/span> lot<\/span> of<\/span> us<\/span> are<\/span> looking<\/span> to,<\/span> because<\/span> they<\/span> are<\/span> mandating<\/span> training<\/span> for<\/span> all<\/span> incoming<\/span> students,<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> this<\/span> fall.<\/span>\r\n\r\nCJ: So<\/span> we<\/span> still<\/span> have<\/span> a<\/span> lot<\/span> to<\/span> learn.<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> the<\/span> other<\/span> place<\/span> where<\/span> we<\/span> can<\/span> look<\/span> to<\/span> is,<\/span> I<\/span> know<\/span> SFU<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> is<\/span> the<\/span> only<\/span> campus<\/span> in<\/span> Canada<\/span> who<\/span> has<\/span> an<\/span> NCAA<\/span> accredited<\/span> athletics<\/span> team.<\/span> So<\/span> our<\/span> teams<\/span> are<\/span> mandated<\/span> to<\/span> do<\/span> training,<\/span> and<\/span> there<\/span> are<\/span> minimum<\/span> requirements<\/span> for<\/span> that.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> haven't<\/span> seen<\/span> much<\/span> research<\/span> yet,<\/span> but<\/span> I<\/span> do<\/span> think<\/span> we're<\/span> still<\/span> learning.<\/span> So<\/span> I<\/span> can't<\/span> give<\/span> you<\/span> a<\/span> direct<\/span> answer<\/span> other<\/span> than<\/span> saying,<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> we<\/span> have<\/span> more<\/span> research<\/span> to<\/span> do,<\/span> and<\/span> we<\/span> have<\/span> some<\/span> more<\/span> considerations<\/span> to<\/span> consider.<\/span> And<\/span> I<\/span> do<\/span> think<\/span> that<\/span> in<\/span> another<\/span> five<\/span> years,<\/span> we're<\/span> going<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> at<\/span> a<\/span> better<\/span> place<\/span> to<\/span> make<\/span> really<\/span> informed<\/span> decisions.<\/span> And<\/span> that's<\/span> really<\/span> focusing<\/span> on<\/span> the<\/span> education<\/span> piece.<\/span>\r\n\r\nShiloh: I<\/span> think<\/span> just<\/span> to<\/span> follow<\/span> up<\/span> a<\/span> little<\/span> bit<\/span> around,<\/span> I<\/span> think,<\/span> CJ,<\/span> around<\/span> education<\/span> [inaudible<\/span> 00:34:49],<\/span> but<\/span> also<\/span> the<\/span> support<\/span> that<\/span> universities<\/span> are<\/span> providing<\/span> survivors.<\/span> And<\/span> the<\/span> standards<\/span> around<\/span> that<\/span> is<\/span> also<\/span> for<\/span> us<\/span> to<\/span> be<\/span> open<\/span> to<\/span> feedback<\/span> and<\/span> scrutinize<\/span> from<\/span> our<\/span> community<\/span> to<\/span> do<\/span> better,<\/span> and<\/span> really<\/span> having<\/span> opportunities<\/span> for<\/span> giving<\/span> us<\/span> feedback<\/span> on<\/span> how<\/span> we're<\/span> doing<\/span> and<\/span> how<\/span> are<\/span> supporting<\/span> survivors,<\/span> I<\/span> think<\/span> will<\/span> also<\/span> improve<\/span> the<\/span> care<\/span> we<\/span> give<\/span> as<\/span> well.<\/span>\r\n\r\nAnna Elaine: Are<\/span> there<\/span> any<\/span> further<\/span> questions<\/span> or<\/span> comments?<\/span> All<\/span> right.<\/span> Thank<\/span> you<\/span> so<\/span> very,<\/span> very<\/span> much<\/span> for<\/span> the<\/span> perspectives<\/span> that<\/span> you've<\/span> brought<\/span> today.<\/span> It's<\/span> very<\/span> appreciated.<\/span>\r\n

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